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markers

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:13 pm
by dustro
Hello,
I have searched the forum and the site and am unable to find an answer...
Is it possible to insert markers into SMPTE DCP's using DOM? specifically First Frame Moving Credits?

I know its possible for SMPTE DCP's to do this as i have gotten studio releases this way but i dont currently have an example CPL to look a the formatting, and it seems that adding something to a signed CPL will make it invalid.

Thank you in advance.

Re: markers

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:14 pm
by Carsten
Is it possible to insert markers into SMPTE DCP's using DOM? specifically First Frame Moving Credits?
Not currently.

- Carsten

Re: markers

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:22 pm
by BenKingIV
Hey Carsten

Did you folks get around to adding SMPTE CPL makers to DOM?

FFOC / LFOC First / Last Frame Of a Composition intended for display
FFTC / LFTC First / Last Frame of Title Credits at the beginning of a feature
FFOI / LFOI First / Last Frame Of Intermission
FFOB / LFOB First / Last Frame Of Ratings Band slate at beginning of a feature
FFEC / LFEC First / Last Frame End Credits
FFMC / LFMC First / Last Frame Moving Credits (moving end titles, end roller)


Best

Ben

Re: markers

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:10 am
by carl
Hi,

Yes, they're in the test version although I've not heard about anybody trying them yet... keep us posted if you give them a shot!

Carl

Re: markers

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:04 pm
by BenKingIV
Oh brilliant - I've not been asked for them specifically on the next DCP but I may just test do a test build with them on.

Unfortunately I won't have access to test though - given the pandemic.

I'll have a looksie soon - but any chance you read markers from a Quicktime file labelled for the purpose?

Best

Ben

Re: markers

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:22 pm
by carl
Not at the moment but if you can provide a sample quicktime file I can take a look at some point.

Re: markers

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:58 pm
by Carsten
I don't think that is a good idea. Markers are in Quicktime files for all sorts of reasons. Imagine markers getting into a DCP and then triggering house lights anywhere in the movie. No, I think they should be set deliberately during the DCP mastering process. We exhibitors always fight with either wrong or non-existent markers/note sheets. They need to be set and checked on the final composition within DCP-o-matic. I have no trouble if markers in a source file can be viewed/inspected from within DCP-o-matic.

Practically, for most features, first frame of rolling credits is the most important marker. If present, they really must be correct.


- Carsten

Re: markers

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:30 am
by scozz76
I have tested the markers on a Doremi unit a while back... They are there. I haven't had time to test if they trigger but I can't think of a reason why they wouldn't.