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VF subtitles on KDM OV

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:45 pm
by Margus Voll
Hi.

I wonder what would be workflow when i need to do VF subtitle version for KDM OV DCP?

Now when i insert DCP to my empty project it asks for KDM and does not let me make VF from OV DCP as an option.

Any pointers what i'm missing.

Re: VF subtitles on KDM OV

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:53 pm
by carl
You need a KDM - do you have one?

Re: VF subtitles on KDM OV

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:45 pm
by Margus Voll
Sure i have one i can make as i have plain DCP that i made to KDM version.

Just not sure whats the correct workflow approach.

Re: VF subtitles on KDM OV

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:55 pm
by Carsten
It whould work the same as for an unencrypted OV/VF combo - create new project, add encrypted DCP to it. Assign KDM. Check 'Use this DCP's video as OV and make VF' and 'Use this DCP's audio as OV and make VF'. You can only check these if the current VF project settings are the same as for the OV DCP.
DCP-o-matic 2.16b helps a little bit with a function to adjust current DCP properties to a loaded source DCP (right click-> 'Set project DCP settings from this DCP').

Add your subtitles.

That is how it SHOULD work, never did this myself so far.

Re: VF subtitles on KDM OV

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 6:07 pm
by Margus Voll
Clearly i'm missing or doing the assign KDM bit wrong it seems.

Re: VF subtitles on KDM OV

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:39 pm
by carl
If you right-click the encrypted DCP in the content list and choose "Add KDM..." you can give it the KDM, and then you should be able to preview it and carry on as Carsten suggests.

Re: VF subtitles on KDM OV

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:55 pm
by Margus Voll
Thanks!

This was the bit i was clearly missing.

Re: VF subtitles on KDM OV

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:14 pm
by carl
Great 8-) I hope it works now!

Re: VF subtitles on KDM OV

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:19 am
by GOR4N
and what if it's needed to send it to distribution?
KDM added to DCP will become inactive after time set in KDM for OV?
Does VF KDM becomes "new OV KDM" if time in VF KDM is set different or longer than in added OV KDM to DCP?

Re: VF subtitles on KDM OV

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:38 am
by Carsten
OV KDMs have no relevance for VFs, and vice versa. Every CPL, if encrypted, has it's own KDM, and it is only valid for exactly this CPL.