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Re: DCP Supplemental Package

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:31 am
by IoannisSyrogiannis
Carsten wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:35 am [...]
I then checked the VF box for both video and audio for the outer two pieces of content. Then created the VF. The VF DCP only contains the trimmed part of the english trailer, while the outer parts are referenced from the OV (german).
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Thank you Carsten, that was really helpful!

I guess that the final result would be a bit bigger (containing the full German trailer), if one was to FTP it back from the cinema server, but it definitely saves space and ingest time when one wants to use both versions.
I am not sure that the method I had in mind would work, but all I need is to try.

Re: DCP Supplemental Package

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:08 am
by Carsten
The servers deal very differently with exporting VFs, or when they are drawn from the server. Some add the OV assets, some not. On our Sony, it depends on what you select for export, while through FTP, you get all the necessary assets, but not in a useful way, so you always have to make sure to draw OV AND VF, then get rid of unnecessary doubles (which can be very large). Not a big deal, but you really have to think before.

Re: DCP Supplemental Package

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:59 am
by auta
Hello, Carsten!

I did an experiment, if you use a video with one reel, everything works correctly, the VF is created correctly.

I have a OV/DCP with 14 parts (graphics inserts), and as an experiment I decided to cut one reel in your way and got an error.

I use version 2.14.59

Re: DCP Supplemental Package

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:51 pm
by Carsten
I don't understand how you could have 14 parts/inserts, when I only see two pieces of content in the list?

You also need to set DCP properties to create reels split by content.


As I said, this is a very complicated way of doing it. I would have prepared the DCP in another way (presplit to accomodate the inserts).

Re: DCP Supplemental Package

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:52 am
by auta
I wrote that I have a ready-made OV/DCP and there were 14 reels in it, and in it I already wanted to cut out reel for the experiment

14 reels in the timeline

Re: DCP Supplemental Package

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:32 pm
by auta
I'm tested in version 2.16.18 - it's work

Re: DCP Supplemental Package

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:07 pm
by auta
I understood what the problem is. It arises when you trim in the joint of the part

For example: there is a OV\DCP with a logo (reel_1), you need to assemble a VF, the logo remains and the sound changes. So, if you leave the logo (reel_1) and put the rest of the film (reel_2) back to back, it will be impossible to assemble the VF - there will be a error, or the inability to chekcbox "Use video of this DCP as OV and make VF"

reel_01 - 00:00:00:00 - 00:00:10:00
reel_02 - 00:00:10:00 - 00:15:32:21

Re: DCP Supplemental Package

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:38 pm
by Carsten
DCP-o-matic does not allow to access content on the level of reels. DCP-o-matic will create reels when assembling a DCP, and it will show reel structure in timeline view, but so far, there is no way to handle individual reels in the GUI. You may trim the DCP exactly at a reel boundary, but that is not the same as cutting out a reel.


What could work is if DCP-o-matic would have a 'split CPL by reels' function. That could create individual content list entries for every reel, placing all exactly in sequence. That would not need to make fundamental changes to the GUI and content handler.

- Carsten

Re: DCP Supplemental Package

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:27 pm
by auta
Hi again.

I'm trying to saddle a DCP with two inserts and completely replace the sound and my sound is distorted

And this is how I see how it would be possible to work with parts in DCP

Re: DCP Supplemental Package

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:59 pm
by carl
I'm trying to saddle a DCP with two inserts and completely replace the sound and my sound is distorted
Did you "un-map" all the audio from the original, so that you only get the new audio?