The content has image size 2048 x 906 why i can't use this image size in Full Frame?

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The content has image size 2048 x 906 why i can't use this image size in Full Frame?

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The content has image size 2048 x 906 or aspect ratio 2.26:1, but why DCP output can't use this image size in Full Frame?

But it becomes 2048 x 1080 image size.
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Re: The content has image size 2048 x 906 why i can't use this image size in Full Frame?

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I had to use the 2.35:1 aspect ratio instead.
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Re: The content has image size 2048 x 906 why i can't use this image size in Full Frame?

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Because DCPs use a limited number (2) of output containers. If your source doesn't fit either Flat (1998/1080) or Scope (2048/858), it has to be cropped or letter-/pillarboxed. Your choice of 2.35 does not change this in presentation. You should not use non-standard containers. You need to understand more about cinema presentation techniques and equipment limitations.
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Re: The content has image size 2048 x 906 why i can't use this image size in Full Frame?

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Carsten wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:57 am Because DCPs use a limited number (2) of output containers. If your source doesn't fit either Flat (1998/1080) or Scope (2048/858), it has to be cropped or letter-/pillarboxed. Your choice of 2.35 does not change this in presentation. You should not use non-standard containers. You need to understand more about cinema presentation techniques and equipment limitations.
I've been able to do it in older versions of the software. It shows normally in the theater. ( 2048 x 1080 )
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Re: The content has image size 2048 x 906 why i can't use this image size in Full Frame?

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You can re-enable the full frame option by ticking "Allow full-frame and non-standard container ratios" in the "Non standard" tab of preferences, but as Carsten says you should be careful... using full frame will usually not work as you'd expect in the cinema.
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Re: The content has image size 2048 x 906 why i can't use this image size in Full Frame?

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carl wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 10:45 am You can re-enable the full frame option by ticking "Allow full-frame and non-standard container ratios" in the "Non standard" tab of preferences, but as Carsten says you should be careful... using full frame will usually not work as you'd expect in the cinema.
I've done that but only get DCP at 2048*1080.
I remember getting the size of the DCP corresponding to the size of the input file. in older software versions.
Or I remember wrong because the size of the entrance used to be only 4 sizes.
-2048*858 scope 2K
-1998*1080 Flat 2K
-2048*1080 17:9 2K
-1920*1080 16:9 Full HD

But I remember 1920*1080 was also output as DCP at 1920*1080 not 2048*1080.
Is it possible in the next version to add more options? Set the output size to be the same as the input file size. but must not be larger than 2048*1080
Including 2048*1152 16:9 2K too.
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Re: The content has image size 2048 x 906 why i can't use this image size in Full Frame?

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I'm not sure what you mean here, unfortunately. Do you not get lots of options for the DCP container size when you enable the non-standard configuration option?
Including 2048*1152 16:9 2K too
That would be too big for 2K (you can only have 1080 lines).
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Re: The content has image size 2048 x 906 why i can't use this image size in Full Frame?

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@ RAY-NUE - DCPs are just not created at arbitrary sizes, you have to understand that. There is a limited range of allowed DCP containers, and you have to fit your source footage into one of them.

This is different from normal computer video. DCPs are solely meant for cinema presentation, and some rules apply there.
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Re: The content has image size 2048 x 906 why i can't use this image size in Full Frame?

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carl wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:05 am I'm not sure what you mean here, unfortunately. Do you not get lots of options for the DCP container size when you enable the non-standard configuration option?
Including 2048*1152 16:9 2K too
That would be too big for 2K (you can only have 1080 lines).
Because I don't want the DCP to be left blank with no images, either the top and bottom, or the left and right sides.
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Re: The content has image size 2048 x 906 why i can't use this image size in Full Frame?

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Carsten wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:35 pm @ RAY-NUE - DCPs are just not created at arbitrary sizes, you have to understand that. There is a limited range of allowed DCP containers, and you have to fit your source footage into one of them.

This is different from normal computer video. DCPs are solely meant for cinema presentation, and some rules apply there.
Because I don't want the DCP to be left blank with no images, either the top and bottom, or the left and right sides.