Extra black frame between reels

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rajeevs
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Extra black frame between reels

Post by rajeevs »

Hi All ,

I am trying to create a dcp of a project which has been divided into 6 reels . Each reel has about 20k dpx files .
After I load the dpx files and after giving the exact timing details , I find that between two reels dcp-o-matic adds a a single black frame .
I am not sure why this is being done . Or is there any configuration change that has to be made to avoid the black frames between reels ?
Please let me know .

My version is 2.10.5 and the project is 24fps . I haven't added the sound files yet .
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Re: Extra black frame between reels

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Well, there shouldn't be black frames. Go to timeline view and check 'keep video in sequence'. Does it make a difference?

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Re: Extra black frame between reels

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Thank you for the reply Carsten !
The 'snap' and 'keep video in sequence' are checked but I still see the black frame .
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Re: Extra black frame between reels

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Can you post screenshots of the content list, and of the timeline view? And I guess, Carl could use your metadata/project file.

I remember we had an issue with image series/reel alignment not too long ago, I should find it in the forum. You may try the current test version. But make sure you backup your 2.10.5 settings before.

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Re: Extra black frame between reels

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I am sending you the metadata and screenshots of the project with just two reels and there appears a single black frame between the reels .
The Content list
Content.JPG
The Timeline
timeline.JPG
Also attached is the metadata zip
metadata.zip
file .

I downloaded the test version(v2.11.19) and I did open the same project , surprisingly the black frame isn't appearing in between the reels .
However the test version is a bit off in color reproduction (the images are too dark, which i can understand is because is a test version ) so can't use it for DCP creation .

Thanks for looking into this !
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Re: Extra black frame between reels

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I think the test version actually was meant to fix some (log) DPX issues. Now, for good or bad, I don't know.

Are you using log DPX?

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Re: Extra black frame between reels

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I am using linear DPX files .
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Re: Extra black frame between reels

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Maybe that log fix created a different issue with lin DPX files? Although that seems unlikely. Probably not easy to find out what is going on. How do you establish your reference?

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Re: Extra black frame between reels

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Thanks Carsten!

Attaching screenshots from both

This is from v2.10.5
Capture2.JPG
This is from the test version
Capture1.JPG
These are viewed with the DCPoMatic player . The test versions colors are too dark and aren't close to what was color graded .
Please let me know if there are any options to have the colors fixed in the test version or the black frame in the v2.10.5
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Re: Extra black frame between reels

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Oh wow, that is far from being subtle ;-)

Maybe that IS created by the log fix. Carl should probably have a look at that.

Since you have single image series, should be no problem to send a single DPX file to Carl, so he can test it.

This is the thread where it came up:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=835

- and from the changelog, Carl fixed log DPX afterwards - in this thread, skiff had the problem the other way round, his log DPX were interpreted as lin, now, your lin DPX seem to be interpreted as log...

Now, I don't know if there is a header in DPX files indicating them as lin or log (I would assume there is). So either, DOM get's this wrong, your files are wrong, or, DOM needs to have a manual override for DPX log/lin selection.

- Carsten
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